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Meeting Notes 2016-06-03

Starting meeting 13:30

Discuss 1/16″ mNPT to 1/4″ VCR connections. Current connections are fVCR, and have the female nut attached in the adapter

Discuss Sam’s proposal for summer work. Jake approves, but reminds Sam we will need his help as an electrical expert on other work as the summer progresses as well.

BOM (Bill of Materials) Discussion:

CAD has been simplified to bare minimum components – we’re getting really close. Supports are likely not going to be needed with steel tubing, but we have the ability to add them in, if required. Bayonet line has not been designed / found yet. Jose and Will will continue to develop this. Looking to rate at around 1400-2000 psig. Suggested that we add a second heat exhanger after the first to precool the inlet gas before the vortex tube.

Two week goals:

Will – Manufacture as parts come in, look at connections to other systems. Help Andrew with CAD of purifier, help Jose with test plans for components and systems. Find bayonet/vacuum jacketed transfer line.

Jose – Work with Will to find the vacuum jacketed transfer line. Write test plans and safety / hazard analysis for the system testing with the help of Will.

Sam – Finalize bill of materials / P&ID for the venting and safety systems so that we’re ready to order parts. Have an initial design pitch ready for when we get back for feedback and/or ordering.

Sage – Work to finish the CAD model with updates with the latest changes to the overall system and ensure that everything is propely placed and mated.

Andrew – Work on getting CAD of purifier designs put together. Get an intial concept pitch ready to propose some design paradigms so we can start ordering and building.

Meeting Notes 2016-05-13

-Meeting begins 13:18

Review last meeting, Jake suggests taking notes with action items each meeting

Jake asks about OXARC bottle holder – should be coming in soon. No one had heard about it, so Jake calls to ask about it.

Monday is a walkthough with a bunch of middleschoolers, Friday is Cleatch Alliance meeting. Imagine tomorrow is next Saturday. hundred of high schoolers will be coming through just outside TFRB. They want to showcase the hydrogen refueling station concept.

Need to come up with something to display what we’re doing

Discussed items:

  • Print the HEF poster and get it put on the door
  • Layout items on the inside
  • Get vinyl on the outside
    • Sponsors
    • Logo
  • Shirts?

ACTION ITEMS:

  • Print the HEF poster and get it put on the door
  • Put other lab posters up around the container
  • Get vinyl on the outside?
    • Sponsors
    • Logo
  • Shirts?

Meeting Minutes: 2016-02-27

Meeting Start Time: 12:14

Meeting called to order

Website Updates

We’re trying to target 1 post per week of updates to the website, so we can show our progress real-time. This is a great opportunity to write up what you want to discuss at the next meeting!

A page has been created for all the sub teams we’ve seen so far. Please keep this updated as necessary! Current 316 teams are working on the HYPER lab website, and will move their information over before/during spring break.

We will have to make decision about what content to put on the static component pages at some point – make them fit a standard, so everyone is sharing the same information we deem important.

Things we need right now – filler text for Team and Personal Bios. Please send changes to Eli or make changes to update this information if you have access to the site. If you want access to the site, talk with Eli after the meeting and he’ll add you as an editor.

Eli is building out a people page with a liked table of contents to allow jumping to each person. (Think Wikipedia TOC at the beginning of the page – allows you to jump to a section on the page or in a link you send someone.)

Question on how we should be communicating – use Slack for communication between group, website is our public presence to share what we’re doing with the world. The more we share outside the group, the more interest we can get from people who may want to help us out. That being said, if we’re able to find something another group is doing through the website without having to ask them – all the better!

Poll Interest in Wild Horse Wind Facility Tour:

There is significant interest, a Schedule matrix will be posted.

Steven Bell Updates on Club administration:

Steven attended the VCEACC meeting about Level one and two funding. The next meeting is required and on March 24. See VCEACC website for details. March 1 deadline to submit for Level Two matched funding.

Matching money goes into an RSO account. Can match funding that was either put into the RSO account or a departmental account.

Jake suggests approaching Pullman Building Supply, Fastenal, others about funding sponsorship – if we do this before March 1, we may be able to include it to get matched funds.

Jake is applying for a Cyber Grant in the $10k to 50k range from Boeing to help the project out.

Development of a crowd funding video continues, Johnny Wang leads production. Some people may be asked to provide sound bytes or video for this.

Team Updates:

[Four from the compressor group show up to the meeting] Eli requests the compressor team post updates weekly, and send the same bios that we discussed earlier.

Purification:

Conference call with Ability engineering. Safety, safety, safety. Skeptical of schedule and surprised at the attempt to run at 300 psi. Expansion to liquefy N2 without liquefying H2. Jake asks they engage with their client (Jake) to define scope. No longer thinking about using a distillation column or membrane seperation. Recommended Soltzer, etc. Jake: molecular sieve approach. Palladium requires 600 C. Jake is free 10:30 to 1:30 Tuesday. Schedule talk.

Vortex:

Global model with variable, honeycomb, flow sim., Jake suggests they talk to Kevin. Need fine fins and lots of catalyst. We could print a vortex tube if it seemed useful. Eli has two months to show 5% conversion using catalyst in the tube. Flow straighteners will give higher performance with shorter/longer tube. Our biggest target will be to get surface area up to allow for increased ruthenium plating. Kevin has CFD. Mitchell discusses the need for rapid iteration.

Heat Exchanger:

A flange is being designed, the hope to have a working SolidWorks model by end of week. Simulations should be done by Spring Break. Eli shares that a representative code run yesterday with Marshall showed a final quality of 70% with tank pressure of 2 atm. Jake states that the best performance in hydrogen will be at 28 K, but we can still operate warmer than this if it is unreachable. Currently looking for optimal pressure ratio. Also looking for a design that avoids plugging issues. Ask for a CAD model of the vortex tube, which the Vortex Team will provide after the meeting.

Open Forum: 

Jake has some updates to finish the meeting. We will be building this summer, there are a handful of spots for backup work this summer. 316 will start fast on building. We are attempting to create a process for open lab time. See Jake’s tweet – Google validates much of what Dr. Chuck and Jake have been teaching in ME 316 and ME 416. We need to implement a plan for an approval process – buddy system, mentors, with an effective, but not restrictive chain of command. People are more expensive than components. Our #1 rule – nobody gets hurt.

In the tour last week, Chris Ainscough of NREL saw the container and got very excited – we’re starting to show containerized H2 liquefaction is future!

Meeting End Time: 13:20

Meeting Minutes: 2016-02-20

Meeting Start time: 12:05

Called to order by Eli Shoemake.

Our RSO (Registered Student Org) started last semester for building out liquefier.

Fundraising opportunities is the primary advantage of being an RSO.

Introduction to ISE, meeting goals

The 416 teams are working parallel to RC Baja in the past, using the club project for classwork.

We now have a site at hub.wsu.edu/ise – Meeting minutes, archives of info will be posted there. There is also room for details bout the system and people working on it.

We need to start updating site on team by team basis, models, posts, pictures. Please let Eli know who needs access for editing the site with updates.

Calendar is up, events and meetings will be posted to it.

Questions –

Can we join the club officially?

You can join through cougsync, no officers, and we will not be using cougsync, so it’s not critical.

Can we put this on a resume?

Go for it!

Identify expert for each subsystem, point of contact list (on Website):

Get an idea of membership

Representatives are here from each 416 group, nobody from 316 yet.

Assign Team Experts

  1. Vortex Team – Mitchell Scott

2. Heat Exchanger Team – Taylor Bryant

3. Purification – Scott Bredberg

4. TFRB – Brian Karlberg

Team progress updates (~5 min per team)

Purification – narrowed to a system, requires input ad water gas shift, cryoseperating reqs 75%, 350 psi, heat exgr to get rid of heavier molecules, rectifier/condenser toughest part to build, condenses ch4 and co2, piston expander to take temp down to -205 C, nitrogen out bottom, H2 at 5 9s out top and into exchr. Run numbers next. – Use ref prop for phase diagrams, properties. Want to avoid solid state. – question on what to do with the liquids. Doing calcs on plates, number of plates and thickness. Goal is concept sheets by end of week. Get info from Jake on Ability Engineering (Illinois)

Vortex – model on changing global vaiables. Review list with Eli. Manufacture out of Kurt’s shop. Size of vortex – 8 inches. Heat exchanger is after vortex tube.

Heat Exchanger – theortical model. counterflow, parrallel tube. Update with mass flow changes. Wanted outlet temp to be 28K (Jake), at 38 K will drop 6 K, 40K will only drop 2K. Planning design review in about a week. Will have Cad model. Asumption for converstion ratio. Need to determine length.

Chef being prepped for March timeframe vortex tube data. Will need follow up tube 3 weeks to month timeline.

Container update

Showing up Monday 2/22 Noon – 2pm

Discuss space preparations for meeting on Wednesday

High level industry people turing facility TFRB Wed AM. Goal is to have space clean and have DYK printed and posted. Put up science/fun things. Want pipe thread, etc poster. Open call for ideas.

Discuss the RSO website

What do we want to do with it? It’s more or less a skeleton right now – let’s put some flesh on those bones!

Would like a people section with professional photo and professional info / bio. Make posts for updates. Provide info for openlab resources

Wild Horse Wind Facility Tour notice

Jake has got to know people at the wind farm through talks on using hydrogen for load leveling. There is some interest in our liquefier, and they have offered to provide tours, normally April to November. We can get a tour if desired. Guidelines and liability form are in the post on the website.

Open Forum

What is 316 doing? – They have a compressor team, a storage team, leak detection, venting, power team, connections team, insulation, system integration. Some work into a blast off panel may be undertaken in the future if a group has time. Right now the system integration has been talking about Bosch tubing for the framework.

End of Meeting